Re: Vertikalt

Efter en halvsort kommentar på Mortens blog, hvor jeg blandt andet skrev at Coen brødrenes film ”No Country for Old Men” og Cormac McCarthys roman af samme navn var fortalt horisontalt og ikke vertikalt fortalt, gik Per von Fischer mig på klingen i en email.

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Her er vores email veksling – jeg synes den blev ret fin.
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Fra Per til Johs:

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Hej Johs,
Tillykke med Fastaval-succes’en.
Mens jeg husker det vil jeg gerne vide lidt mere om vertikal og
horisontal narrativitet, og hvordan du synes rollespil passer ind – er
der et sted vi kan snakke om det, hvis ellers du har lyst?
Per
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Fra Johs til Per:

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Jo ja. Jeg skal nok.

Men det er noget jeg har hugget fra en læsning af en af McCarthys andre bøger. Artiklen jeg har hugget pointen fra har jeg ikke længere, men jeg husker pointen. Det handler om fortællerpositioner. En tradition fortæller ser/fortæller udfra et form for overblik – måske ikke i sit sprog, men det ses i fortællingensstruktur (det har en form for start og slutning). Hos McCarthy sker der bare ting – det er horisontalt. Han beskriver mere end fortæller – hvis du forstår. Der er ikke en skjult mening bag.

Jeg tror faktisk bare det er argumentet.

Det giver mening i rollespil, fordi vi hvis vi leger med der vertikale (om en helt vertikal rollespilsfortælling er mulig ved jeg ikke) kan frigørere os – især fra den der fastivalscenariestruktur, som vi vel begge kender.

Gav det mening og kunne du bruge det til noget?

Kh Johs
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Per til Johs:

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Det giver perfekt mening, lyder lidt som det hellige guld jeg
eftersøger 😀 – spilperson handler i en situation -> ting sker -> ny
situation osv.

Jeg forstår dog ikke helt hvorfor det er horisontalt – jeg ser
frendriften i “plot”, også hos McCarthy, som drevet af personernes
valg, og disse valg er jo ikke “tomme” eller taget i et tomrum, men
altid i forhold til noget (fortid, hænderlser, tilfældigheder mm)

Pludselig får jeg lyst til at grave Camelot frem igen…hmm

Per
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Johs til Per:

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Men jeg tror pointen, i læsningen af McCarthys Blood Meridian, som det var, er at fortælleren ikke forholder sig til personernes valg. Der kan godt være en sammenhæng at spore, men ikke nødvendigvis. Ligesom når man kigger på vores medmennesker. Tit handler de uforståeligt (ofte gør de ikke, men…) og hvis det var rollespil ville de spille deres spilperson dårligt – fordi de gør noget ukarakteristisk.

Da jeg læste Blood Meridian sad jeg ofte og forstod ikke hvorfor hovedpersonerne nu var der hvor de var eller gjorde hint. Han skriver  meget fremmedgørende – hvilket jeg også mener går igen i No Country… i nogen grad.

Fortællerblikket er horisontalt, fordi vi aldrig zoomer ud og ser det oppe fra og ned. Ting sker – der er ingen planlægning eller styrring.

Kh Johs
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Per til Johs:

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YES! Eller man kan sige: der er ikke nogen fortæller i traditionel
forstand? Og at det er netop der hvor fx. Story Now rollespil kan
brillere. Læseren/tilskueren/medspillerne konstruerer deres egne
sammehænge og egne forståelser baseret på det der sker (ie. det de
fiktive personer fortager sig.)

Det der også går igen i disse typer fortællinger er manglen på en
protagonist, igen i tradionel forstand. Hvem er fx. hovedpersonen i
NCFOM? Chigur? Lwellyn? Sheriffen? Svaret er: ingen af dem eller dem
alle. Der samme er til stede i Fargo, Short Cuts, Crash, LIttle
Children m.fl., og der er også en medvirkende årsag til at den slags
fortællinger fungerer som rollespil, tror jeg.

Per


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Fantaval er overstået. Imperiet blev alt i alt et fucking fantastisk scenarie (nu skal der bare skrive to noveller til, det skal redigeres også synes jeg det skal oversættes og sættes i produktion). Fastaval 2009 stopper – åbenbart – aldrig, hvilket er ok, så længe det gode vejr holder.

Men allerede under banketten gik det op for mig, at jeg skal skrive et rigtigt scenarie til næste Fastaval. Sådan et scenarie a la Kristo/Anders F-B/Morten, Mikkel eller Lars Kaos’. Et stort sammenhængende værk. Episk. Jeg skal skrive mit Warhammer Blood Bowl sportsscenarie!
Og det skal hedde ”Enhver given Festag”.

Lige nu er jeg i ”sig ja”fasen af projektet.
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Elementer jeg allerede har fundet på:

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–    Blood Bowl kampe skal spilles i Skill Challenges eller i min misforstået warhammerfortolkning af SC.

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–    Imellem kampene, udspiller vi stjernespillernes hverdagsdramaer. Alt efter hvor godt det går på banen, har de det mere eller mindre hårdt i privaten. Jeg vil skabe sammenhæng mellem de to ”verdener” ved hjælp af et karmapointsystem – som jeg glæder mig til at skrive mere om.

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–    Spillerne skal spille hinandens relationer.

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–    Temaet, scenariet skal udforske, er drømmen overfor hverdagen. Sportslige håb overfor daglige forpligtelser. Idealisme versus realisme. Et tema, der altid har ligget og stadigvæk ligger mig meget på sinde.

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–    Scenariet bruger Warhammersystemet med Blood Bowltilbygninger.

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–    Scenariet er ikke et humorscenarie, men jeg har tænkt mig at indarbejde en række citater til film, amerikansk football, Warhammerverden og Blood Bowl.

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–    Scenariet skal kunne spilles med varierende antal spillere. Jeg tænker mellem 2 og 6 (eks. spilleder) – scenariet bliver blot længere med flere spillere.

Isabelle/min warhammer kampagne mashup

Jeg ved godt det er d. 1. April, men det er ikke en aprilsnar.

Dette er et af det blogindlæg, som spillerne på min kampagne meget gerne må lade være med at læse! Altså hvis du er Ask, Asger, Asger, Rasmus eller Jonas så vent med at læse det til efter vi har spillet den der vampyrjagt.

I 1994 skrev Lars Kaos det smukkeste scenarie verden endnu havde set. Det hed Isabella. Scenariet omhandler om seks* vampyrers forelskelse og fortabelse i deres ”moder” Isabella. Det var et af de første scenarier, der var karakterdrevet og alene af den grund er det et vigtigt værk.
I min warhammerkampagne, Imperiet, er jeg kommet til at introducere (eller omtale) en vampyr der hedder Isabella. Denne vampyr har heltene i vores kampagne valgt at jagte og dræbe, men jeg har ikke planlagt dette subplot endnu.

Også var det, at kom jeg til at læse Lars’ scenarie, da jeg i virkeligheden skulle lave noget helt andet.

Og nu vil jeg lave et Isabella/Imperiet (min kampagne – ikke scenariet af samme navn) mashup! Jeg har som sagt læst Lars’ fantastiske scenarie og valgt at spille det som del af min warhammerkampagne. Da spilpersonerne i Isabella er vampyrer og heltene i min kampagne ikke er det, så kan jeg ikke blot udsætte vores normale spilpersoner for handlingen i Isabella. Det ville også være synd, da indbyggende konflikter i Lars’ spilpersoner er det fine ved Isabella. Men jeg proppe spilpersonerne fra min warhammerkampagne over i Isabella. Det gør jeg ved at lade mine spillerne både spille vampyrerne fra Isabella og deres normale spilpersoner på en gang.
Det hedder bipersonsrollespil og er en gammel velprøvet teknik. Det interessante ved dette forsøg er at jeg som spilleder skal åbne Isabella op, så jeg kan sætte scener ind med de normale spilpersoner imellem de scener som Lars allerede har beskrevet for over 15 år siden. Og det helst uden at ødelægge klimakset alt for meget.

*) Da Lars digitaliserede Isabella skrev han en 6. spilperson ud, da denne var svag. Det er et held, da jeg kun har fem spillerne på mit Warhammerhold.

Helt konkret, så bliver forløbet ca. sådan her:

Her ville det være en god idé kigge på scenegennemgangen (side 7 – 14) i Isabella samtidig –  scenariet kan hængtes her.

Scene x0:

Til at starte med skal vores helte af sted fra Marienburg. De har mødt Gibber Spellerman, en Veranapræst, der har sat dem på sporet af Isabella og gerne vil hjælpe dem med at fange hende. I virkeligheden er Spellerman en ond nekromantiker, der godt nok gerne vil Isabella til livs, men kun fordi han så kan optage nogle af hendes kræfter i et fælt ritual. At jeg har introduceret Spellerman gør ikke mashup’et mindre komplekst. Men vi starter med spilpersonernes indkøb og fedten rundt inden afrejse.

Vores helte hører om den gale grave der er forelsket i statuen (læse Isabella).

Vampyrspilpersonerne og Scene 1-2:

Derefter læser spillerne deres vampyrspilpersoner (jeg har tænkt mig at konventer deres stats til warhammersystemet).

Og vi spiller de tre første scener i Isabella: Opvågningen i krypten og Uventet hjælp fra en præst (Eduard Bargeld er selvfølgelig Shallyapræst).

Scene x3: Efter jagtselskabet

De normale spilpersoner er på vej imod Calden (som hedder i scenariet Schwarzwald – men jeg har valgt at bruge byer fra mine warhammerkort), de er blevet forsikret og det er nået at blive nat inden de når frem. Under deres rejse i natten kommer de til et sted i skoven og der kort tid inden har været et blodbad. Fem unge smukke mænd er brutalt dræbt – og deres overtøj og våben er væk.

Spillerne får lov til at beskrive scenen.

Mellemspil og scene 4:

Det bliver kort beskrevet hvordan vampyrerne kommer til Calden og finder teateret, hvor de overdager. Hvis spillerne har lyst (eller ikke har fået gjort det tidligere, så kan de diskutere spilpersonerne iblandt).
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I denne scene er vampyrerne iført blodrøde jakker og har – på en eller anden måde – fået anskaffet sig våben.

Scene x4:

Vores spilpersoner kommer til Calden og kan bruge dagen i byen. Måske skal de endda omkring teateret, men det er lukket pga. sygdom. Ellers får de lov til at kede sig lidt i den lille by inden de tager af sted imod den gale graves slot. De når dog ikke frem før aften og stopper derfor ind på en kro.

Den anden Nat:
Scene 1-2:

Vi læser og spiller scenerne ”Atter en opvågnen” og ”Kareten”.
Hvor jeg spiller Chekov – efter bedste evne (er virkelig dårlig til at spille npcer).

Scene x3 og 3:

Selvfølgelig stopper vampyrerne og Chekov på halvvejen for, at strække ben og få en kop suppe. Derudover har Chekov gammelmandsblære.

På denne kro kan de normale spilpersoner og vampyrerne komme til at møde hinanden. Jeg forventer stor dramatisk ironi.

Ankomst til Scheinfeld (i scenariet Goslar) og borgen:

Vampyrerne rejser om natten og kommer derfor først.

Xankomst til Scheinfeld og borgen:

De normale spilpersoner ankommer. Scheinfeld har set bedre tider. Det viser sig at Greven er familieven med den adelige spilperson Otto von Grieg, men også super vanvittig. Selvom han modtager dem i gårdspladsen, så har Greven ikke tid til at tage imod dem. Han skal jo diskutere (Isabellasituationen med Chekov) – men de kan være hans gæster og spise middag med ham og Chekov til aften.
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Jeg introducere allerede tjeneren Emil her.

Tredje nat:
Scene 1 -2:

Vi læser og spiller scene 1 og 2: ”Den sidste opvågnen” og ”Søgen efter Isabella”.

Scene x3 og 3:

De normale spilpersoner er til middag. Der snakkes og hvis de (eller Spellerman) presser Greven og Chekov, så fortæller de om Isabella. Men så snart de kommer ind på hvor hun er henne, så hører vampyrerne det ude fra gangen. Jeg forestiller mig, at vampyrerne enten begynder at slås med spilpersonerne eller fx låser dem inde i spisesalen og skynder sig hen til Isabella.

Scene x4:

På en eller anden måde kommer vampyrerne hen til Isabella først. Spillerne skal opleve tabet, da Isabella ikke ønsker at havde noget med dem at gøre og dræber den første.

Scene 4:

Spillerne ankommer til rummet og vampyrernes store episke afslutningsscene. Det bliver – forhåbentligt – noget rod. Især når Spelleman begynder at kaste nekromantikermagi, hvilket troldmanden Thomas Reinfeld – en af de normale spilpersoner – kan genkende. Derudover kaster nogle af vampyrerne også magi og der kommer helt sikkert også noget kamp. Hvem der angriber hvem – er svært at sige, men for at spilpersoner er mere sikker på at vinde, skal kampen mellem vampyrerne være i gang når de normale spilpersoner ankommer.

Modsat Isabella scenariet, så bruger vi warhammersystemet og figurer til at afgøre kampen.